tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post2949321851314806361..comments2023-11-04T00:29:27.498-07:00Comments on Nothing But Good Things: The 250 Most Archetypical New Wave Songsdavepmillerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16126525810385084002noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-22712233404176168692023-07-21T19:54:05.312-07:002023-07-21T19:54:05.312-07:00i have been looking for a new wave song from 82-84...i have been looking for a new wave song from 82-84 i think it goes tic no talk tic no talk.. is here.. on the tv tic no talk then guitar lick if anybody knows please email jace6731@hotmail.com thanks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-2715070934708964812023-01-07T19:16:09.360-08:002023-01-07T19:16:09.360-08:00I agree with the observation by "AbbeyRoadkil...I agree with the observation by "AbbeyRoadkill" that, "there's no particular sound that makes a song new wave. Some new wave bands featured guitars and others featured synthesizers." The observation that New Wave music, "was mostly defined by what it wasn't. It wasn't . . . punk. It wasn't disco, it wasn't pure pop," is a very intelligent way of putting things, because it does not insist that "New Wave" be given a strict definition. Tom Brodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05888450287064603325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-71393619882987070802023-01-07T19:09:57.045-08:002023-01-07T19:09:57.045-08:00This is about the suggestion by fellow commenter, ...This is about the suggestion by fellow commenter, Dave Miller, that "new Wave was basically over after about 1985." I respectfully submit that New Wave music is still being composed, recorded, and performed, up the the year 2021 and, most likely also in the years 2022 and 2023. One example is Freezepop. Freezepop issued new albums in the years, 2000 to 2021. I found a quotation published on the internet stating that, "Freezepop is an indie New Wave/Synthpop band." I own two of Freezepop's albums. Tom Brodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05888450287064603325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-19459655117712477712023-01-07T19:03:37.967-08:002023-01-07T19:03:37.967-08:00I agree with the remark by, "Anonymous" ...I agree with the remark by, "Anonymous" that New Wave music, "To me, it's a very big tent." Tom Brodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05888450287064603325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-39331110049228109742023-01-07T18:57:26.575-08:002023-01-07T18:57:26.575-08:00Dear "Anonymous," this is about your rem...Dear "Anonymous," this is about your remark, "Most of this list is electronic music . . . the music that killed off New Wave." I respectfully submit that you have it backwards. Now, regarding electronic music, the use of synthesizers is the main defining feature of New Wave music, although I did mention in one of my other comments that some New Wave groups such as Madness and The Cure did not use synthesizers. To reiterate what I wrote in another comment, three of the most prominent New Wave Groups made extensive use of synthesizers, and there were Human League, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark (OMD), and Kraftwerk. Now, this addresses the above remark by, "Unknown." Unknown wrote that "New Wave died out around 1981." I respectfully submit that this remark has no basis in reality. New Wave music was still going strong in the years, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, and beyond. Best regards, Tom Brody, Ph.D. Tom Brodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05888450287064603325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-67793162433218036592023-01-07T18:45:44.857-08:002023-01-07T18:45:44.857-08:00I agree with the above comment from "davepmil...I agree with the above comment from "davepmiller" that, "I wouldn't list alot of these artists as new wave . . . it's a song list." I'm a kid from the 1960's, and so, I'm familiar with all the music by Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons, The Beatles, The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, The Zombies, and so on. I am also familiar with all of the groups from the New Wave movement, which mainly encompassed new music from the years, 1978 to 1984. Now regarding the definition of "New Wave music," the best thing is to avoid a strict definition and, instead, to have "soft definitions." True, many New Wave groups used synthesizers, and these include Kraftwerk, Devo, Orchestral Manoevres in the Dark (OMD), Human League, Nina Hagen, and Brian Eno (Life in the Bush of Ghosts). But some New Wave Groups, such as Madness and The Cure, did not make use of synthesizers. One might consider Madness and The Cure to be "New Wave" groups, solely because their music had a certain sound that was never before heard in rock'n'roll. Here is another point that might require flexibility in definition, and this is, should we include punk groups such as Black Flag (My War), Fear (New York's Alright if You Like Saxophones), and Killing Joke (Requiem, Inside the Termite Mound, Empire Song, We Have Joy) to be "New Wave" groups? My own opinion, is that I would not mind it, if punk groups were included as "New Wave" groups. Tom Brodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05888450287064603325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-12953629616876179012021-11-17T10:14:23.970-08:002021-11-17T10:14:23.970-08:00A lot of people want to quibble and make new wave ...A lot of people want to quibble and make new wave a very narrow genre. To me, it’s a very big tent. But Steve Forbert’s “Romeo’s Tune”? I don’t think so. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-87791400723237116932021-10-01T21:10:50.711-07:002021-10-01T21:10:50.711-07:00Agree...most of the new wave was fed to us by MTV ...Agree...most of the new wave was fed to us by MTV back in the day. And many of the bands classified as New Wave, were not yet defined as Rock, Punk, Disco or Glam as yet.<br />Take for example the Police, Pretenders, Clash or Blondie...they all were defining their sound(s) which would be latter classified as something other than New Wave. Should New Wave have been classified as One Hit Wonders? Or should it have been called New Dance? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155063732549450255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-84584930148421359082019-06-08T12:05:56.302-07:002019-06-08T12:05:56.302-07:00In my view, new wave started in the second half of...In my view, new wave started in the second half of 1978 with the release of The Cars' debut album and Blondie's Parallel Lines album. I agree that there's no particular "sound" that makes a song new wave. Some new wave bands featured guitars and others featired synthesizers. It was mostly defined by what it wasn't. It wasn't classic rock, it wasn't punk, it wasn't glam, it wasn't disco, it wasn't pure pop... but it drew from all them. By 1986 it had pretty much run its course. The very last gasps of new wave were probably songs like "Just Like Heaven" (The Cure) and "Lips Like Sugar" (Echo & the Bunnymen) in 1987.AbbeyRoadkillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17895923221644144087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-2156922260228850912016-09-17T18:37:54.752-07:002016-09-17T18:37:54.752-07:00The Clash's "Rockin' the Casbah not p... The Clash's "Rockin' the Casbah not punk very New wave by thenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08822616201714820788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-69297415919613116722016-08-29T07:05:20.872-07:002016-08-29T07:05:20.872-07:00What defines new wave? New wave started in the lat...What defines new wave? New wave started in the late 70's. If you look at the songs on the list from the late 70's you find more real new wave. It had a rockier edge than 80's synth pop and was a more refined version of punk with some 50's, back to the basics, rockabilly aspects. Elvis Costello, Joe Jackson, earlier Police and Cars had this edge. A few Blondie songs like One Way or Another also had this edge. The other side of the coin in new wave were the experimental bands like the Talking Heads which later lead to 80's synth pop.<br />New Wave died out around 1981 as new wave bands became more pop oriented. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04091458038999189605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-29669612622224074082016-06-12T19:04:08.491-07:002016-06-12T19:04:08.491-07:00I get what you're doing here and I appreciate ...I get what you're doing here and I appreciate it! New Wave wasn't a specific sound, as some seem to think -- it was a different way of writing recording thinking and representing. And a lot falls under that blanket. Everyone was inspiring everyone and the creative juices were insane. Thanks!Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06290367221940925405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-78694835393687747372015-12-05T19:42:07.773-08:002015-12-05T19:42:07.773-08:00Given it's punk rock roots new wave bands almo...Given it's punk rock roots new wave bands almost by definition require a guitarist, I would actually classify many of those tracks as synthpop.<br /><br />Unlike a previous poster, I agree with your inclusion of Rock the Casbah for the reasons I just outlined.<br /><br />Anyway still a great list of tunes thanks for taking the time to compile it. I'm going to check a handful of the songs on there that I'm not familiar with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-84534713936715102982015-09-09T14:08:41.221-07:002015-09-09T14:08:41.221-07:00yea, but it's Blondie, so...yea, but it's Blondie, so...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-38291484487083484282014-05-24T14:21:53.500-07:002014-05-24T14:21:53.500-07:00Good question. For my money, new wave was basical...Good question. For my money, new wave was basically over after about 1985. That's partly my own evolving musical tastes, which veered more towards punk, avant-garde, and obscure underground rock in the late 80s, but I also think archetypical new wave truly had a mid-80s expiration date as new wave bands blended fully into mainstream top 40. In other words, a list of the best new wave songs might extend to the late 80s, but the late 80s are intentionally mostly absent from this list of archetypical new wave.davepmillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16126525810385084002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-42224307065538847632014-05-24T14:17:24.913-07:002014-05-24T14:17:24.913-07:00I'm comfortable with just Avalon at #77. Love...I'm comfortable with just Avalon at #77. Love is the Drug was too early to be archetypical new wave. I'll include it if I ever make a list of prototypical new wave.davepmillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16126525810385084002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-50881650633296965652014-05-24T11:19:55.690-07:002014-05-24T11:19:55.690-07:00also , it seems you've omitted 85-89 for some ...also , it seems you've omitted 85-89 for some reason ? lots of good choices there as wellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-88310566199050263832014-05-12T12:29:12.726-07:002014-05-12T12:29:12.726-07:00Roxy Music..Both Ends Burning, Thrill of It All, L...Roxy Music..Both Ends Burning, Thrill of It All, Love is the Drug..Damn..The list goes on and on..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-5135705910930301502014-03-30T16:38:30.481-07:002014-03-30T16:38:30.481-07:00No. No Cramps. That wasn't an oversight. A ...No. No Cramps. That wasn't an oversight. A certain about of rockabilly revival made it onto this list, but I associate psychobilly more strongly with garage rock and punk. I was curious what others thought, so I posted a poll on rateyourmusic about whether or not the Cramps were new wave. The preliminary verdict is a clear "no". https://rateyourmusic.com/board_message?message_id=5171304davepmillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16126525810385084002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-27567351221632686102014-03-28T23:47:46.670-07:002014-03-28T23:47:46.670-07:00Okay, Television is there. Whew (they probably ar...Okay, Television is there. Whew (they probably are the purest form of post-punk New Wave). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-51848638311939724182014-03-28T23:46:10.004-07:002014-03-28T23:46:10.004-07:00No Cramps? No Television? Most of this list is el...No Cramps? No Television? Most of this list is electronic music .. the music that killed off New Wave, not actually New Wave itself. Heart of Glass is pure disco. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-52505855436921808652013-08-30T20:40:14.783-07:002013-08-30T20:40:14.783-07:00I wouldn't list a lot of these artists as new ...I wouldn't list a lot of these artists as new wave either. It's a song list. One of the most striking examples is The Clash's "Rockin' the Casbah". The Clash were in no way shape or form a new wave band, but that one song was definitely new wave enough that it came it at #100 on my list. It's new-wave-ish-ness was definitely enhanced by the video which was huge on MTV at the same time as a number of other songs on this list.<br /><br />Regarding being something special, that would run counter to the concept of an archetype in my opinion. If you're looking for something more obscure, there are plenty of other lists on this site where you can find that.davepmillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16126525810385084002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-787277849195454680.post-91801337523208066162013-08-30T19:24:48.561-07:002013-08-30T19:24:48.561-07:00Some of these artists I wouldn't list as New W...Some of these artists I wouldn't list as New Wave.It seems you<br />add songs that everybody else adds to their lists.Some good songs<br />listed,but nothing special.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com